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Andrew Hilsmann
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Every time I hear such eulogies I waver between "His work was of its time" and "His influence will surely grow." It startles me to think that there are young comic book artists growing up for whom Eisner, Kirby, and Wood will be only an echo. There are already folks growing up who can't understand Frank Miller. Time will tell, of course, but all this talk is remarkable given that the vast majority of both Eisner's and Kirby's work has been out of print or otherwise unavailable in reprints until very recently. Makes you wonder whether Kirby's romance comics, westerns, and war comics will ever be reprinted so I have the opportunity to actually read them. Is anyone else here interested in reading Kirby's romance comics?
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John Byrne
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Since you mentioned it, JB, what did Michael Chabon say that rubbed you the wrong way? **** That Eisner was the only person ever to have worked in comics who considered them an artform.
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Richard Siegel
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Right and guys like Alex Raymond were hacks.
Of course, the real irony is that most of Eisner's work mostly appeared OUTSIDE of comic books. He was a news paper guy. The Spirit sections were Sunday supplements not funny books.
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Charles Valderrama
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John Byrne wrote:
| Since you mentioned it, JB, what did Michael Chabon say that rubbed you the wrong way? **** That Eisner was the only person ever to have worked in comics who considered them an artform. |
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That was a dumb thing to say-- why would Michael Chabon
presume such things??
-C!
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John Mietus
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Who's Michael Chabon?
[edit] And I'm not just saying that to be glib, I really don't know.
Edited by John Mietus on 08 April 2005 at 7:31am
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Rob Hewitt
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The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312282990/qid =1112968177/sr=8-2/ref=pd_csp_2/103-2535026-7959015?v=glance &s=books&n=507846
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/books/news/09/22/michael.chabon /
dedicated his book "the deep debt I owe in this and everything else I've ever written" to Jack Kirby's work.
edited to add, that apparently the mention of Kirby was in his author's note-"Finally, I want to acknowledge the deep debt I owe in this and everyhing else I've ever written to the work of the late Jack Kirby the King of Comics." I think the dedication was to his father
But same difference.
Edited by Rob Hewitt on 08 April 2005 at 9:07am
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Andrew Hilsmann
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Michael Chabon is a novelist, short story writer, and essayist. His novel, The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, won the Pulitzer Prize for literature. His novel Wonder Boys was made into a feature film starring Tobey MacGuire and Michael Douglas. He received a film credit for working on the screenstory, though not the completed screenplay, of the Spider-Man 2 movie. He has also written a small number of comic book scripts, some of them published by DC Comics. His quarterly anthology, The Escapist, features work by any number of comic book luminaries including Chaykin, Baker, Mignola, Sienkiewicz, Orzechowski, Starlin and others, last I checked.
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John Byrne
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...dedicated his book "the deep debt I owe in this and everything else I've ever written" to Jack Kirby's work. **** And yesterday he said it was all about Eisner.
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John Byrne wrote:
| Since you mentioned it, JB, what did Michael Chabon say that rubbed you the wrong way?
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That Eisner was the only person ever to have worked in comics who considered them an artform. |
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Wow. I liked Kavalier & Clay very much, and I would have bet that Chabon had a whole lot more respect for comic creators generally. What a dumb thing to say.
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Brian Miller
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Well, surely Chabon can have his cake and eat it too?
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He might not have realized what he was saying -- an inadvertant
backhanded compliment. I'm not trying to mind-read, mind you, I'm just
speculating.
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My comment above about how many of the testimonials seemed to be left over from Jack Kirby reflects a sad condition in our industry and our species. We must pile high the superlatives, it seems, and the fact that these same people spent a couple of years saying Jack Kirby was the greatest thing ever in no way dilutes their attempts to say Will Eisner was, too.Of course, one speaker also described Eisner as "very unique".
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