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John Byrne
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Sprite, dagnabbit!!!!Of course, Chris didn't care for that name, so he made fun of it in the script!. Something I didn't know about until I held the published issue in my hands. Of course, readers were turned off on the name.
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Rebecca Jansen
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"Don't pull my Tab, man." Shadowcat seems to suit the character least, one of those attempts at going 'dark' that became overly fashionable.
Oh, I also cringed at the horrible costume circa #149-150 too, but I think we were supposed to. Some genius, putting together stuff like that! :^D
Edited by Rebecca Jansen on 16 February 2018 at 2:06pm
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Peter Martin
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I think once a character starts changing codenames, there is a danger that readers will hang on to their real name, which remains unchanged.
Jean Grey, Hank Pym, Kitty Pryde, even Carol Danvers to a degree.
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Charles Valderrama
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The whole "Kitty is a genius" business was completely at odds with my intent to have her a completely ordinary teenaged girl.
********* JB, I really was liking your set up of Kitty being an ordinary young girl.
How she would fit in with the other students/members of Xavier's school while coping with her mutant powers was a refreshing return to the basics of Stan and Jack's original X-Men concept.
-C!
Edited by Charles Valderrama on 16 February 2018 at 2:11pm
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 16 February 2018 at 2:19pm | IP Logged | 5
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JB, I really was liking your set up of Kitty being an ordinary young girl.••• For about a page and a half? Chris turned a scene intended to show Kitty gushing about meeting the X-Men into Kitty gushing about being a genius.
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Charles Valderrama
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Well, sure the "genius bit" was pretty quick, but I enjoyed the moments during that Hellfire Club storyline where she helped the X-Men and had some elements of a normal girl with developing mutant powers.
Plus, your artistic portrayal of her was great! She looked ordinary!
-C!
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Robert Shepherd
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I lost interest in Kitty when she became "Ninja-Girl". i think that is when she became ShadowCat?
Edited by Robert Shepherd on 16 February 2018 at 2:34pm
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Mark Haslett
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When I think back on all the Kitty stories that I like, her being a "genius" never brought anything new or good to the table. She didn't defeat the demon in her first solo adventure because she was a "genius".
If anything, to me, contemplating that story as re-cast with an "ordinary girl" shows how much more fun Sprite would have been that way. Kitty's under-pressure thinking would have been more impressive if the basic ground-rules were that her intelligence level was average-- like me!
Alas!
Edited by Mark Haslett on 16 February 2018 at 2:42pm
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Andrew Bitner
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I should note that I would have much preferred seeing Kitty as an ordinary girl, rather than a genius in her own right pre-powers. Giving her a surfeit of gifts, as it were, is just too much.
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Michael Roberts
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I lost interest in Kitty when she became "Ninja-Girl". i think that is when she became ShadowCat?
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Yes, in the “Kitty Pryde and Wolverine” limited series. Which probably also helped cement calling her Kitty Pryde.
Edited by Michael Roberts on 16 February 2018 at 2:43pm
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Brian O'Neill
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As a non-X-reader(please, let me live...)...how long did Kitty use the name 'Ariel'? I remember a Marvel Team-Up in which she is billed as 'Kitty Pryde' on the cover, as she is babysitting for two boys, when Morlocks show up,and, being MTU, Spider-Man is also involved. Eventually, seeing her use her powers, he recognizes her, and addresses her as 'Ariel'...but she doesn't want the kids finding out, and so she goes by her real name. I hadn't realized it was a 'trend' for her at that point. |
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Joe Zhang
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I liked Kitty and Colossus as a teen couple. The idea of a modern-day Kitty and Colossus together, not so much. Strong, feminist ninja computer genius and a big guy from rural Russia.
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