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John Byrne
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Posted: 05 May 2018 at 6:59am | IP Logged | 1
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Batman probably wouldn't even TRY to land a hit. We can assume he knows all of Spider-Man's strengths, and would base his attack on them -- possibly even exploiting them to his own advantage.
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John Cole Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 May 2018 at 8:17am | IP Logged | 2
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How would Batman be examing the webbing in the Batcave if it always disaolves within an hour?
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John Byrne
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Posted: 05 May 2018 at 8:32am | IP Logged | 3
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That comes down to how far from the Batcave the battle occurs. Plus, traditionally, Batman has a mini bat-lab in the Batmobile, and something equivalent in his utility belt.
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Paul Kimball Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 May 2018 at 9:08am | IP Logged | 4
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Batman probably wouldn't even TRY to land a hit. We can assume he knows all of Spider-Man's strengths, and would base his attack on them -- possibly even exploiting them to his own advantage. +++++++++++
Why make that assumption? this could be a first meeting.I agree though that once they have met or once he is aware of Spider-Man that Batman would be more prepared
Edited by Paul Kimball on 05 May 2018 at 9:13am
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Robbie Parry Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 May 2018 at 9:11am | IP Logged | 5
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John Cole wrote:
How would Batman be examining the webbing in the Batcave if it always dissolves within an hour? |
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Mr Byrne already answered, but that was my thought. If near enough the Batcave, he'd examine it; if not, and the Batmobile lab wasn't enough, he'd have to chalk it up as a loss.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 05 May 2018 at 10:00am | IP Logged | 6
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Batman probably wouldn't even TRY to land a hit. We can assume he knows all of Spider-Man's strengths, and would base his attack on them -- possibly even exploiting them to his own advantage.+++++++++++ Why make that assumption? this could be a first meeting.I agree though that once they have met or once he is aware of Spider-Man that Batman would be more prepared ••• I imagine Batman keeps tabs on superfolk, good and bad. "Be prepared" is his number one mantra.
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Robbie Parry Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 May 2018 at 10:03am | IP Logged | 7
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John Byrne wrote:
I imagine Batman keeps tabs on superfolk, good and bad. "Be prepared" is his number one mantra. |
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One thing I loved about the "shared earth" aspect of early DC/Marvel crossovers was the comments made by the heroes, acknowledging each other's existences (in the second Superman/Spider-Man team-up, Wonder Woman mentions that she had been planning to hunt down the web-slinger).
Well, in the Batman/Hulk crossover, Batman tells someone (Commissioner Gordon, I think) that he had kept a file on the Hulk in the Batcave for quite some time. I imagine, if use the "shared earth" as a premise, Batman would keep files on all the heavy-hitters, including Spider-Man.
It's sort of why I dislike the "separate universes" premise that the modern crossovers did. Superman casually mentioning that he'd heard whispers about Galactus from heroes in another universe is not as fun as Batman telling Gordon about the Hulk's file in the Batcave.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 05 May 2018 at 10:50am | IP Logged | 8
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The "separate universes" was and is fanboy twaddle. No reason for not simply assuming all is one world, and various characters have not met before. But, no, that isn't complicated enough. feh
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Robbie Parry Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 May 2018 at 10:57am | IP Logged | 9
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Totally agree (I've been shouting it since I joined this forum!).
When Spider-Man appeared in a TRANSFORMERS comic, it felt completely right. But years later, I did read comments from some, asking what earth it took place on. *Sighs*
The early DC/Marvel crossovers enhanced my enjoyment of superhero comics. I'd always wanted to believe they were on the same earth, but SUPERMAN VS THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN confirmed it. I was pleased you went down that road with your DC/Marvel crossovers, plus the 1990s Hulk/Superman tale went down that same road.
I also think it's more accessible, e.g. Clark Kent and Peter Parker crossing paths due to journalistic responsibilities works better for me than bogged-down multiverse explanations involving cosmic entities.
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Eric Sofer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 May 2018 at 4:16pm | IP Logged | 10
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Batman. Whether a surprise or not, I feel that Batman's knowledge of physical abilities - his own or others' - will make the difference.
But my question, likely for another thread, is - how does Batman do with another "winner"? Some hero who is also knowledgeable and just about always ready to fight?
So of course... it's Batman vs Captain America again. Think I'll pop that up now...,
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 May 2018 at 8:59pm | IP Logged | 11
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I think a young, neophyte Spider-Man would be taken down by Batman. But a Spider-Man with years (decades?) of super-duels behind him would be able to overcome the Dark Knight. Peter Parker simply has more physical and mental talent than Bruce Wayne.
Edited by Joe Zhang on 05 May 2018 at 9:02pm
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Andy Mokler Byrne Robotics Member
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It's hard for me to imagine someone that's 10X stronger than his opponent not being the favorite in a fight. I realize fighting skill and technique play a big part but at some point, overwhelming speed, agility and strength, along with heightened awareness/anticipation are going to be too much for a human.
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