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Eric Ladd
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I added the word balloons for the pages that had dialog just to get a feel for inking around them.



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The blue line on that Kitty page makes it look more lively somehow.
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I love Photoshop!

Over the years, nay, decades that I have been using this program, I have discovered all kinds of ways to make the art look better after it's been scanned. Today, I realized there was something I could do with these pencils.

As I got deeper in the "project", my drawings got tighter and tighter -- getting better seated back in the ol' saddle. This meant the jungle backgrounds became better defined. Making some of the earlier pages look kinda sloppy, at least to my eyes. But this morning it occurred to me that, since I'd spent half an hour or so scanning all the pages at high res yesterday, I could "clone" parts of my foliage from one page to another. Sometimes even flipping the original.

Quite an improvement! And imagining these pages being inked, I doubt that anyone will even notice.

SCIENCE! Gotta love it!!

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I love Photoshop!

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I don't know what version you have, but at some point
they added symmetry tools that are a lot of fun. The
only problem is, I had no idea they were there because
they are off by default and have to be turned on in the
settings somewhere.

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I'll have to look for that symmetry app. Might be handy.
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In mine it is

Preferences - technology previews - Enable Paint
Symmetry

Being a 'preview' maybe means it is still under testing
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Ps updated itself a while back. Maybe it's there.
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Rebecca Jansen
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I wonder if I'm more color blind than I thought, I already knew some browns and purples were the same to me, but once I was asked to ink something in blue pencil and I couldn't 'see' it fully or properly to do so in that color... I ended up going over things in regular pencil and then inking it. Perhaps it was just too light a blue? Also special red tinted glasses might've helped had I thought of it then.
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 QUOTE:
I love Photoshop!


The old version I used for years got so buggy and slow that I finally
signed up for an Adobe subscription a week or so ago.

I should have done it a lot sooner!
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Eric Ladd
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Rebecca, typically it is a good idea to print the blue pages as light as you can stand it so that cleaning them up in Photoshop after inking is much easier. I go with a fairly light setting because the pencils are readily available. I'm ready for a nice Wacom tablet at this point since so much is possible in Photoshop for a novice like me.
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Modern pages are not lettered on the boards.
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About the amazing Photoshop, almost all the blue disappears just by cutting either the red or green or blue channel (which ever looks best at the time) and pasting that as the new composite channel. Instant clean page. So you can go relatively dark with the blue line print outs, thus saving your eyes. I love ink on blue lined pages.

I love Photoshop too. It's one of the first graphic design applications that was so well made, entire careers were invented using it.


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John, Thank you immensely for this project!  My first Byrne X-Men comics were Uncanny 114 and 115, so to see your X-Men in the Savage Land again was amazing!  The way you've drawn Cyclops' face always portrayed his maturity and life experiences in relation to the other X-Men.  Such subtlety of line and form to make that come across so easily.  3 quick questions if I may:
1. Which issue of your Uncanny run leading up to this fantastic issue were you most proud of at the time or later on?
2. Any hints / ideas / revelations you can share as to the resolution of the Jean Grey plot you've presented?
3.  I'd love to see what your Kirby-esque visor for Cyclops would've looked like on this Cyclops.

Thank you again for a truly amazing experience with Elsewhen
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Valmor J. Pedretti
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JB and Frank Zappa, two of my biggest influences and similar ways of art creation.

Zappa used to take pieces from live recordings and merge them with other ones, adapting tempo and key through tape manipulation. He called it 'Xenochrony'. One can only imagine what he would be doing nowadays with digital technology and its many amazing possibilities.

John, did you use any corresponding "analog" tecniques on the pages before the computer stepped in?
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Closest I came would be the occasional use of photostats to duplicate panel elements.
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This came up with a page I was thinking about purchasing:


The buildings in panels one and three are stats of the drawing from panel two. I always assumed that everything was redrawn panel to panel. In retrospect, OF COURSE you would use stats to save time.
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Jason: In retrospect, OF COURSE you would use stats to save time.

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And (I would imagine) to keep your eye looking at the action and not the subtly shifting backgrounds. 
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I liked the original version of page 6, and I like the new version, but I am sad to lose Wolvie's amazement that Kitty can phase through adamantium, plus Kitty's question, "What's adamantium?". (And the reader goes, "Whoa, that's true; at this point Kitty wouldn't have known that.") 


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Really quite pathetic to see (a) moronic bloggers "responding" to rumors out of the con, knickers in a twist, and (b) their pet sheep responding to those "reponses" without trying to check sources.
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Okay Iíll bite - what moronic blog entries are these, and what were the rumours? Donít hear any of these things down this end of the planet

*double edited* sorry, thought it may have been covered in the locked-off thread.


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I liked the original version of page 6, and I like the new version, but I am sad to lose Wolvie's amazement that Kitty can phase through adamantium, plus Kitty's question, "What's adamantium?". (And the reader goes, "Whoa, that's true; at this point Kitty wouldn't have known that.")

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Maybe I can work that bit into a later issue.

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A later issue!!!
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If this were to happen, how long until the first issue
hits the newstand?
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May.
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