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Thomas Woods
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In mine it is

Preferences - technology previews - Enable Paint
Symmetry

Being a 'preview' maybe means it is still under testing
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Ps updated itself a while back. Maybe it's there.
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Rebecca Jansen
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I wonder if I'm more color blind than I thought, I already knew some browns and purples were the same to me, but once I was asked to ink something in blue pencil and I couldn't 'see' it fully or properly to do so in that color... I ended up going over things in regular pencil and then inking it. Perhaps it was just too light a blue? Also special red tinted glasses might've helped had I thought of it then.
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I love Photoshop!


The old version I used for years got so buggy and slow that I finally
signed up for an Adobe subscription a week or so ago.

I should have done it a lot sooner!
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Rebecca, typically it is a good idea to print the blue pages as light as you can stand it so that cleaning them up in Photoshop after inking is much easier. I go with a fairly light setting because the pencils are readily available. I'm ready for a nice Wacom tablet at this point since so much is possible in Photoshop for a novice like me.
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Modern pages are not lettered on the boards.
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About the amazing Photoshop, almost all the blue disappears just by cutting either the red or green or blue channel (which ever looks best at the time) and pasting that as the new composite channel. Instant clean page. So you can go relatively dark with the blue line print outs, thus saving your eyes. I love ink on blue lined pages.

I love Photoshop too. It's one of the first graphic design applications that was so well made, entire careers were invented using it.


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John, Thank you immensely for this project!  My first Byrne X-Men comics were Uncanny 114 and 115, so to see your X-Men in the Savage Land again was amazing!  The way you've drawn Cyclops' face always portrayed his maturity and life experiences in relation to the other X-Men.  Such subtlety of line and form to make that come across so easily.  3 quick questions if I may:
1. Which issue of your Uncanny run leading up to this fantastic issue were you most proud of at the time or later on?
2. Any hints / ideas / revelations you can share as to the resolution of the Jean Grey plot you've presented?
3.  I'd love to see what your Kirby-esque visor for Cyclops would've looked like on this Cyclops.

Thank you again for a truly amazing experience with Elsewhen
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Valmor J. Pedretti
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JB and Frank Zappa, two of my biggest influences and similar ways of art creation.

Zappa used to take pieces from live recordings and merge them with other ones, adapting tempo and key through tape manipulation. He called it 'Xenochrony'. One can only imagine what he would be doing nowadays with digital technology and its many amazing possibilities.

John, did you use any corresponding "analog" tecniques on the pages before the computer stepped in?
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Closest I came would be the occasional use of photostats to duplicate panel elements.
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Jason K Fulton
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This came up with a page I was thinking about purchasing:


The buildings in panels one and three are stats of the drawing from panel two. I always assumed that everything was redrawn panel to panel. In retrospect, OF COURSE you would use stats to save time.
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Nathan Greno
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Jason: In retrospect, OF COURSE you would use stats to save time.

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And (I would imagine) to keep your eye looking at the action and not the subtly shifting backgrounds. 
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I liked the original version of page 6, and I like the new version, but I am sad to lose Wolvie's amazement that Kitty can phase through adamantium, plus Kitty's question, "What's adamantium?". (And the reader goes, "Whoa, that's true; at this point Kitty wouldn't have known that.") 


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Really quite pathetic to see (a) moronic bloggers "responding" to rumors out of the con, knickers in a twist, and (b) their pet sheep responding to those "reponses" without trying to check sources.
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Mal Gardiner
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Okay Iíll bite - what moronic blog entries are these, and what were the rumours? Donít hear any of these things down this end of the planet

*double edited* sorry, thought it may have been covered in the locked-off thread.


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I liked the original version of page 6, and I like the new version, but I am sad to lose Wolvie's amazement that Kitty can phase through adamantium, plus Kitty's question, "What's adamantium?". (And the reader goes, "Whoa, that's true; at this point Kitty wouldn't have known that.")

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Maybe I can work that bit into a later issue.

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A later issue!!!
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If this were to happen, how long until the first issue
hits the newstand?
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May.
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Gundars Berzins
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Oh great, now I have to clean up all of the mess from my head exploding. So worth it tho!
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Remember, we're still operating in a "what if?" scenario.
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My fingers are crossed!
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I know JB but the "what if" alone... heck this whole thread did it anyways. Ahh the joy.
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So, after reading this amazing issue and being transported back to 1980, I went back and re-read your entire run (108 - 138, plus the Iron Fist Sabretooth and X-men issues) and then the Savage Land stuff from Hidden Years.  It's almost eerie how seamless the rendering of these characters are!  And NO ONE draws a better Cyclops and Jean Grey!  Looking at Hidden Years, would Cyclops' "new" visor been the same as the perfect "Neal Adams" look you gave him in Hidden Years?  And would you have ever explored more of his origin?  (in this alternate reality, the last time you touched it was ALSO in the Savage Land in issue 114)
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