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Peter Martin
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Posted: 29 November 2018 at 10:40pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

For me, Marvel Girl works at least as well as Phoenix. Seems fine, so long as folks actually use it!

50 years+ on it seems too late to be switching to a brand new name and to be expecting it to carry any weight, even if the name was dynamite (Psynamite, there I did it).

More interested to see what JB does with the character -- and with Scott in her eventual orbit, perhaps -- than worrying about renaming one of Marvel's best heroines.


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What a pity that Marvel Girl was not, like the Invisible Girl, (re-)made into a Woman of much more heightened power without resorting to a storyline that ended up destroying her and, it seems to me ultimately, perhaps the X-Men as a franchise as well.


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Posted: 30 November 2018 at 10:03am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

JB's evolution of Sue Storm during his run was a brilliant and organic flow of character development that pushed the boundaries of female characters in the 80s.  It would have been amazing to see the same kind of process applied to Jean
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As most of you know, Jean’s exposure to cosmic rays (tac tac tac) was intended as nothing more than a boost of her existing powers. Something to make her a more serious member of the group. Unfortunately, Chris wrote her bigger and bigger until the X-Men were in danger of becoming guest stars in their own book. That was when Steven Grant spoke the words that will live in infamy: “Make her a villain.”
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Richard Palmgren
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Posted: 30 November 2018 at 11:03am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

As a kid, I knew Jean wasn't going to be a permanent member of the X-Men cause she didn't have her head in the corner box (and I was so sad when Banshee's vanished from it)
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Posted: 30 November 2018 at 11:51am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Yes , really hope we see Banshee if this series materializes . He was one of my fav's.
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Posted: 30 November 2018 at 2:47pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I know that you teased the FF with one of your comments.  It probably doesn't line up just right time wise, but would you consider Joe Sinnott guest inking that segment?  This question is way out there, I know. 

XMHY 8 took me back to my first exposure to you in MTIO 50.  Can't get enough of  you and Sinnott.  

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Posted: 30 November 2018 at 4:14pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Yes , really hope we see Banshee if this series materializes . He was one of my fav's.

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We could see Banshee but except if Mr.Byrne does something, he will  still be powerless. Perhaps we could also see her daughter Siryn.
I believe Mr.Byrne has never draw her.
What I find strange is why Claremont didn't make her an original New Mutant? Was she considered too "old"?
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Will someone please explain to Mr. Soler that speculation is not allowed in this thread? Apparently he can’t hear me.
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Posted: 30 November 2018 at 11:17pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Speaking of Marvel Girl being made into a Woman, I liked the idea* of having Sue Storm go from Invisible Girl to Mrs. Fantastic instead of Invisible Woman.



*not my idea, it was in a letter column answer. 


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Oi! Mr Soler!

Quit it.

& while I’m here, people, quit the ‘either or’ questions as well! 
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 QUOTE:
Speaking of Marvel Girl being made into a Woman, I liked the
idea* of having Sue Storm go from Invisible Girl to Mrs. Fantastic
instead of Invisible Woman.


“The Invisible Woman’’ is a better superhero name for Sue, who
deserves to have one that stands on its own. Besides, names that give
an indication of the character’s powers (or shtick) are almost always the
best way to go, with “Mr. Fantastic” being one of the relatively few
notable exceptions. Although... “Mr. Elastic” doesn’t sound too
bad...

[Edited to fix a formatting error...]

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Posted: 01 December 2018 at 7:48am | IP Logged | 13 post reply

Wouldn’t that be Mrs Invisible-Fantastic?
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Posted: 01 December 2018 at 8:51am | IP Logged | 14 post reply

Or maybe Mrs. Fantastically Invisible?
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Posted: 01 December 2018 at 12:15pm | IP Logged | 15 post reply

And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming........
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What I keep coming back to as my excitement and anticipation for this project builds, is that this will be YOUR writing of the X-men from one of the most significant periods in the team's history.  It's going to be great to "hear" Scott and to see how the character has evolved from his "voice" in Hidden Years.  It's like when Alpha Flight appeared in X-Men compared to their depth of personality and true "voices" during their series
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Posted: 01 December 2018 at 4:37pm | IP Logged | 17 post reply

After continuing to immerse myself in all things relating to 1980 X-Men, including "The Art of John Byrne" (one of my most prized possessions at the time; and still to this day) a few more random questions (but again always searching for clues about the new series..)

1.  Did you ever develop any other "New Mutants" besides Kitty, Caliban and Willie?

2.  Back in the day, was there any plan to get the original X-men back together ala X-Factor? 

3.  So half a year out from starting "Pencil Practice", do you find it's become more "Writing Practice" ?
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Posted: 04 December 2018 at 3:58pm | IP Logged | 18 post reply

If this thread ever ends, I'm throwing away my computer.
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Posted: 05 December 2018 at 12:21am | IP Logged | 19 post reply

I still remember the semi-shock of seeing that one Kitty drawing in the Art Of John Byrne... talk about a 'What If' idea. :^D

I'm thinking at least Wolverine can be allowed to drink a Labatt's or smoke a cig again. It didn't feel like the real him with that stuff excised.
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Posted: 05 December 2018 at 8:33am | IP Logged | 20 post reply

If this thread ever ends, I'm throwing away my computer.

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Fret not, Mark! Even if ELSEWHEN becomes a real series, I will continue here with sneek peeks and updates!

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Posted: 05 December 2018 at 11:58am | IP Logged | 21 post reply

Excellent! I don't know how I've been missing out on these forums in the past. No more.
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For me as a young lad, the Sentinels were one of those rare creepy comic book entities that scared me. Something about those emotionless beings with only one goal had a powerful impact.
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Sentinels are fun to write and fun to draw. Their sheer monolithic quality, the bull-in-a-chinashop aspect of, well, pretty much anything they do. Usually with large characters an artist has to stay aware of their surroundings, how much space they have to move around in. Not so with Sentinels!
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For me as a young lad, the Sentinels were one of those rare creepy comic book entities that scared me. Something about those emotionless beings with only one goal had a powerful impact.
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I found Alex Ross' depiction of them (in MARVELS) particularly effective, as they swept through the city at night.
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Big fan of the Sentinels. And their big, sorta-but-not-quite human faces are creepy. 
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