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Posted: 07 May 2019 at 8:50am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

There were just enough mentions of these sites at the Dallas con that I feel I must once again remind everyone (as I did there) that they have nothing to do with me. They copy what I post here--despite my requests that no one do so--mostly out of context.
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Koroush Ghazi
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Posted: 07 May 2019 at 10:06am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Just an idea: how about a watermark on the corner of any commissions or art pages you post here saying something like "more@Byrnerobotics.com"?
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Darren Taylor
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Posted: 07 May 2019 at 10:12am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I think John is saying they copy the anecdotal text that accompany images as well Koroush. 
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Posted: 07 May 2019 at 5:26pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

True, and obviously that's not something that can be prevented if the culprits intentionally ignore JB's wishes.

But, for example, right now, a certain person who reproduces JB's material on Twitter under a misleading premise ala this thread's title has reproduced several full pages of JB's commissions in recent tweets. A watermark or small bit of text with a reference to this site's web address in a place that's not too obtrusive, but can't be easily be cropped off could help steer people in the right direction.

I notice that the numpty who runs that Twitter feed is now acting indignant that JB posted this thread, making out as though he's doing nothing untoward. Yet he's the one constantly posting JB's words and images in what can only be described as a totally disrespectful, if not outright deceptive, manner.

A grammar tip: in the English language, if you are quoting somebody else, it is grammatically correct to use quotation marks, or offset the text, to indicate a quote, and a clear link to the original source is typically expected as well. If you post the text without these, especially under a misleading heading, then you are potentially deceiving others into thinking that you are John Byrne.

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Darren Taylor
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Posted: 08 May 2019 at 3:11am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I'm not really familiar with the Account in question, mostly because I know to come here and Twitter isn't really my thing! 

But one would imagine that there are 'perks' to being an 'influencer'. So If Josephine Bloggs gets no likes because she isn't famous but starts an account Winston Churchill says: They probably get more 'members/friends' than they might otherwise. They also potentially influence viewers opinions on Winston through their selected/curated posts. 

If they post nothing but good things, then people unfamiliar with Churchill have that view of him. 

Point being, it is a responsibility and one that -could- potentially have perks. 

The other part of this is that, of course, it could remind a wider fan base of the love they once held for comics and bring them back...I mean, like one in every thousand but it could happen.

Ultimately the initiated here know that this is the only place on the web where you can get it from the horses mouth (Sorry John). But as Douglas Adams says; 
“But the plans were on display…”
“On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”
“That’s the display department.”
“With a flashlight.”
“Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”
“So had the stairs.”
“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”
“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”
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Posted: 08 May 2019 at 8:53am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

What I find interesting is how Bleeding Cool can create an article from a quote they took from from John Byrne Says that took a question that I asked here on the forum. 





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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 8:50am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

The latest:

Apparently lacking sufficient material to misquote, they’re resorting to flat out lies:

“I’m not really sure how John can say ‘He’s decided’ not to take it to Marvel when reading that thread over the last months has clearly shown Marvel gave up any interest a long time ago and John wrote about his frustrations of them not getting back to him.”

By all means, read the thread. See if you can find evidence of Marvel “losing interest”.

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Nathan Greno
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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 9:11am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Any chance this book could be published at IDW? I know that was a possibility at one point. 
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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 9:13am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

It was under discussion, but not a “possibility “. Lots of hoops to jump thru.
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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 9:15am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I’m really sad it didn’t happen but thanks, JB, for sharing here. 

How many issues have you completed?

Are you still actually working on more issues now that you know the book isn’t happening?
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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 9:20am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I STARTED the book knowing it “wasn’t happening “. My original intent was to “publish” here, as free fan fic. Marvel expressed interest, and that diverted things for a while, or you would have been getting this months ago.
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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 10:57am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

It makes me crazy when people who couldn't possibly know the truth opine on things like they are any kind of expert, especially in comparison to the person who was actually having those conversations.

It's clear to all of us with proper reading comprehension that he's off-base. I just don't get why someone who's built a following in quoting some things you say would then try to cast doubt on the veracity of those statements. But he's wrong, which is evident to anyone who's followed the thread.

I appreciate that people really wanted to see this--as did I--but him lying about the situation seems a bad way to handle that frustration.
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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 11:02am | IP Logged | 13 post reply

Thanks, Chris.

Our young Mr. Ryall has in recent years found himself cast as the unofficial Byrne Wrangler, so he’s about as close to an eye witness as you’re likely to get, here.

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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 11:03am | IP Logged | 14 post reply

Mr. Ryall, I think it's an easy answer; it deals with power and attention. First someone's post gets a little attention... people start reading and commenting. The poster gets a sense of a following, so posts more. More people read and pay attention, and at that point, it's a vicious circle. Truth and integrity fall by the wayside as self-indulgence swells like a balloon.

"It makes me crazy when..." Oh, sure, blame it on THAT. ;)

It is an entire shame that we won't see it published - but per Mr. Byrne, I suspect it's no loss to us. The buying public, however... well, that's a damned shame, that's all.
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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 11:08am | IP Logged | 15 post reply

That is why I ignore those accounts on social
media. I don't need second hand
misinformation. When I have come straight to
the source for the past 15 plus years.
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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 11:12am | IP Logged | 16 post reply

You want your misinformation fresh!
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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 11:14am | IP Logged | 17 post reply

There's something wrong with that guy "upstairs" if you know what I mean.  He reminds me of a celebrity stalker. 
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You want your misinformation fresh!
************
Hahahaha.
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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 1:13pm | IP Logged | 19 post reply

""It makes me crazy when..." Oh, sure, blame it on THAT. ;)"

Fair point, Eric. My years spent as 'unofficial Byrne Wrangler' are probably more to blame...

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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 1:36pm | IP Logged | 20 post reply

I used to belong to one of the art boards just to catch art that I was not aware of, but I got into a discussion that quickly turned to argument when someone wrote they could tell JB's emotional state based on how good or bad the page looked. A prelude of things to come so I left them to their squabbles. Getting JB frozen concentrate is never as good as fresh squeezed.
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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 2:21pm | IP Logged | 21 post reply

Maybe it’s just me, but it seems that ‘John Byrne says’ guy’s older
misinformation was better.
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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 2:23pm | IP Logged | 22 post reply

Fair point, Eric. My years spent as 'unofficial Byrne Wrangler' are probably more to blame...

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Hey, the pay’s bad, but at least the hours are terrible.

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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 3:42pm | IP Logged | 23 post reply

Welp, can't wait for the "fan-fic"* pages here anyhow. Hope my JBF dues are paid up!






^which of course will become canon in my own world.
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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 4:00pm | IP Logged | 24 post reply

The cool thing is we'll still get to see the story (what would we do without the internet?). Onward and upward...
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Posted: 06 June 2019 at 4:03pm | IP Logged | 25 post reply

While I am bummed that "Elsewhen" won't be officially published by Marvel, I am appreciative and thankful that JB intends to share the work with us fans on the board.

JB, as far as inking goes, given that the series will be a fanfic sort of thing, will you be inking the work yourself, or will it be reproduced on the board straight from the pencils? (For the record, I will enjoy it not matter what!)


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