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Trevor Smith
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| Posted: 05 May 2021 at 7:04pm | IP Logged | 1
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Yep. Nova Scotia's rollout has been...not the best, and
Canada overall has had supply issues. This is what
happens when a country depends 100% on importing their
vaccine supply.
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David Miller
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| Posted: 05 May 2021 at 9:22pm | IP Logged | 2
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Vaccine Side Effect, or Have You Just Been Alive for 40 Years?
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Matt Reed
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| Posted: 06 May 2021 at 12:25am | IP Logged | 3
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Trevor Smith wrote:
Yep. Nova Scotia's rollout has been...not the best, and Canada overall has had supply issues. This is what
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Say what you will about the US, but I got my first dose a month ago and, like clockwork, got my second four weeks later. Hard for me to imagine going longer between shots.
I guess as shitty as the US can be, we still get some things right!
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Matt Reed
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| Posted: 06 May 2021 at 12:29am | IP Logged | 4
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@ David Miller. Your link is bogus. All it brings up is this...
The page cannot be foundThe page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
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Wilson Mui
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The Biden administration is considering waiving the patents for the US
vaccines. Who knows if it will even help though? I don’t think it will be
that easy for drugmakers to figure out how to duplicate the
manufacturing process.
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Joe Zhang
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| Posted: 06 May 2021 at 4:34am | IP Logged | 6
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I think for a patent to be filed, it must show how its made. Anyone who uses that information to duplicate the invention has to pay the patent holder. Ideally, patents spur competition while preserving incentives for innovation.
By waiving patents, it forces drug makers to avoid the patent process for new Covid vaccine technologies. They would just keep their knowledge under extreme secrecy. Like how Coca Cola has never patented their formula, which is known only to key employees.
Edited by Joe Zhang on 06 May 2021 at 4:43am
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Jim Burdo
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Unfortunately, it looks like there are problems with the effectiveness of China's Sinopharm and Sinovac vaccines.
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Peter Martin
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I think it would be a dumb move to waive the patents. The drug companies had a big carrot dangled under their noses and responded with developing effective vaccines in record time. Now -- surprise! -- the carrot was a trick.
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Peter Martin
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| Posted: 06 May 2021 at 8:02am | IP Logged | 9
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Also: global supply constraints on things like the 2000-litre bags that are needed to produce the vaccines are not going be eased by waiving the patents.
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Jim Burdo
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Patents Aren't the Problem; Supply Chains Problems Are the Problem.
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Rebecca Jansen
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| Posted: 06 May 2021 at 10:55am | IP Logged | 11
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Russia (mostly) has been bombarding the internet with b.s. anti-vacc 'news' and info. I couldn't even post this sentence at most any other forum I'm on. Biden has been captain for a massive swing away from the uselessness of the Trump admin. in addressing covid, but I wish they could do a tenth as much to deal with the absolute crap being spread through the public via the various mediums but especially the good old free and unregulated internet. Instead the whole herd immunity model has had to be abandoned as being impossible in the U.S. already. That means it's not going away as more variants will take root, it'll be an ever-present risk out there with no actual end necessitating vaccine boosts and upgrades. Thanks libertarian liberty loving but anti-science types and buyers of the hysterical disinformation.
I have my date for a first, Pfizer probably, shot this Tuesday (11th). My parents in their 70s got their first shots around a month ago and a family friend in his 80s was a of couple weeks before them. Hotter spots have had pharmacies giving AstraZeneca shots to anyone for quite awhile, around big cities mostly, with J&J coming online through that system too. I'm in a fairly not hot area on an island, the main places of transmission being schools, what air flights have been allowed, and restaurants in that order.
Edited by Rebecca Jansen on 06 May 2021 at 11:01am
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Larry Gil
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| Posted: 07 May 2021 at 7:13am | IP Logged | 12
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Going for my first shot tomorrow here in Toronto . I was told Pfizer so glad about that . Here in Canada it is like 2-4 months wait to get the second shot .
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