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Rick Whiting
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I have always wondered why the original Squadron Supreme mini series has never garnered the same amount of critical praise that Watchmen has gotten. Especially since Squadron Supreme came out a year before Watchmen. Is it because Moore is a more popular and "critically acclaimed" writer then Mark Grunewald was? Is it because Watchmen was aimed solely at adults, while Squadron Supreme was aimed at a wide all ages audience? Does anyone have any ideas why this is the case?
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Ray Brady
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Dunno, but I enjoyed the Squadron Supreme about 80 times more than
Watchmen.
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Aaron Poehler
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Honestly, though I do like Squadron Supreme, it's nowhere near as good as Watchmen either in the writing or the art, nor does it hold up nearly as well.
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Gene Best
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Never read it. How was it? Why the comparison?
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Pedro Bouça
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Two very good reasons: First it took over 10 years to be collected - and even so only because Mark Gruenwald died!
Second, neither the writing nor the art are as good as Watchmen. The artwork of the first few issues, in particular, is really bad.
Now, Marvel HAS some series that could've been as sucessful as Watchmen (or, at the very least, DKR), like Elektra Assassin. But again it took over a decade to collect that one (and even so it is only currently available on the expensive Elektra Omnibus), and Elekra (and arguably Frank Miller) wasn't nearly as popular as it was on her prime.
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Michael Huber
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I read Watchmen and I don't get all the hype. The writing was better than average, the art I wouldn't rate as high.
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Fred J Chamberlain
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I thought Squadron Supreme was incredible. Though it holds a dear spot in my heart, it wasn't as innovative as Watchmen was.
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Paul Kimball
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They're just different types of stories although I enjoyed both. Please don't
anyone post something to the affect of "prove to me why one is better than
the other" just read them and make up your own mind. Next someone will
want proof of why vanilla is better than chocolate.
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John Michael Jackson
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"Next someone will want proof of why vanilla is better than chocolate."
Well, that's silly. Of course everybody knows vanilla is better than chocolate.
Edited by John Michael Jackson on 13 March 2009 at 7:46pm
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Michael Huber
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Well, you can make vanilla into chocolate, but try the opposite!
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Peter Svensson
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Squadron Supreme deserves more praise. I will say that at the end of the day, Watchmen was more influential, but Squadron Supreme was still a great ground breaking story that showed what you can do with superheroes when you don't have to worry about putting the toys back when you're done.
I highly recommend it.
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Victor Rodgers
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QUOTE:
it's nowhere near as good as Watchmen either in the writing or the art, nor does it hold up nearly as well.
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The art may have been better than in Squadron Supreme but the writing certainly wasn't.
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How is it more innovative? Most of Watchmen's innovations were in Squadron.
Edited by Victor Rodgers on 13 March 2009 at 9:53pm
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