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John Byrne
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Posted: 30 May 2022 at 12:50am | IP Logged | 1
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Nah. We’d have the military stationed in the hallways.
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Rebecca Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 February 2018 Location: Canada Posts: 4580
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Posted: 30 May 2022 at 3:14am | IP Logged | 2
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Mitt Romney when he was at Bain Capital worked on purchasing a factory in China with high fences and barbed wire (to keep out all those people wanting the great jobs, ha ha)... maybe that's what some of his Republican colleagues would like to have at all schools as well as the borders? I'm sure many of them live in gated communities (in the land of the free), so it's not so bad, there's a guy who will take care of anyone "suspicious" who is "armed with a sidewalk"!
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Brian Floyd Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 30 May 2022 at 4:19am | IP Logged | 3
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Nah. The Republicans will simply decide to arm the teachers.
Until eventually an unstable one (possibly a substitute) decides to start shooting the kids.
Then the solution will obviously be to arm the students.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 30 May 2022 at 5:06am | IP Logged | 4
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Arming teachers has been on the front burner for a long time.
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Kevin Brown Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 30 May 2022 at 6:25am | IP Logged | 5
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Republicans will ban books, but not AR-15s, as well as arm teachers for whom they think are "indoctrinating" kids by teaching "critical race theory" (a.k.a. real history). They're so effed up...
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Vinny Valenti Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 30 May 2022 at 4:41pm | IP Logged | 6
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Thoughts and Prayers - LINK
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Rodrigo castellanos Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 30 May 2022 at 9:10pm | IP Logged | 7
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Vote Blue
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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 31 May 2022 at 12:35am | IP Logged | 8
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Rodrigo Castellanos wrote:
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Are you suggesting Biden and Congress wouldn't do those things if the Democrats had a filibuster-free majority in the Senate? Your claim that Democrats don't do anything when they are in power fails to recognize that they have not had sufficient legislative power to unilaterally act on gun legislation since 1977.
Edited by Jason Czeskleba on 31 May 2022 at 12:39am
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Rodrigo castellanos Byrne Robotics Member
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Your claim that Democrats don't do anything when they are in power fails to recognize that they have not had sufficient legislative power to unilaterally act on gun legislation since 1977.
Then I would suggest them not to promise stuff they can't do.
Bad look.
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Athanasios Kollias Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 31 May 2022 at 6:17am | IP Logged | 10
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Then I would suggest them not to promise stuff they can't do.
Bad look.
+++ So you say that a presidential candidate shouldn't say what their plans for the future are? Isn't that far worse than not being able to fulfill promises because of lack of majority in the Congress?
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 31 May 2022 at 6:37am | IP Logged | 11
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I get truly pissed off when the gun lobby & its supporters use false equivalents to back their position.
Today I saw a post listing a bunch of countries where following gun restrictions, oppressive regimes slaughtered civilians. They were oppressive regimes to begin with.
The kicker was they then used Australia, New Zealand & Canada as current examples where following the removal of guns, the people were now being brutalised & oppressed.
What.the.actual.fuck?
Do the gun lobby really believe the Democrats are the equivalent of Nazi Germany, China or Russia? Really?
Do they really believe Australia et al really are brutalising their people?
Absolute idiots, every single one of them.
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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 31 May 2022 at 7:55am | IP Logged | 12
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QUOTE:
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Yes, welcome to the American political system. Any promise a presidential candidate makes carries with it the implicit qualifier "if Congress will enact the law necessary to make this happen." Yes, Biden could have been realistic and said something like "I'll try to get Congress to ban assault rifles and high capacity magazines, but the Republicans will filibuster and prevent the law from being passed and nothing will happen." But that probably wouldn't be a winning campaign strategy. Maybe there wasn't much of a chance he'd be able to get gun legislation enacted, but if he'd lost the election there would be zero chance.
More to the point... you've suggested that voting for Democrats is useless in terms of addressing the gun problem. But voting for Democrats is actually the most potentially effective thing people can do at this point (which is not to say it's guaranteed to be effective, just that any other actions would be even less effective). The only way to get anti-gun legislation enacted is to either elect enough Democrats to be able to do it, or to persuade some Republican members of Congress to support the idea. And the only thing that will persuade those Republicans to change their position would be if that position became a liability in terms of getting re-elected. They aren't going to be convinced by protests, or lectures, or public shaming, or a bipartisan commission. They support unlimited gun rights because it helps them win elections, and changing that fact would be the only way to change their position.
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