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Lars Sandmark
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After all these years of being a fan of John Byrne's artwork, I usually think "Yeah of course it looks awesome, It's by JB". Then there are times when I see a piece like this and I'm stunned all over again by how much talent he has. Not just the execution, we all know he does excellent figure work, but here we see amazing artistic Choices. In a piece like this it's very easy to mess everything up, but he pulls it off with perfect clarity while still being a super dynamic Spider-man picture. Mind-blowing.
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John Byrne
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After all these years of being a fan of John Byrne's artwork, I usually think
"Yeah of course it looks awesome, It's by JB". Then there are times when I
see a piece like this and I'm stunned all over again by how much talent he
has. Not just the execution, we all know he does excellent figure work,
but here we see amazing artistic Choices. In a piece like this it's very easy
to mess everything up, but he pulls it off with perfect clarity while still
being a super dynamic Spider-man picture. Mind-blowing. Thanks, Lars! I'm going to grab that compliment and use it as an excuse
for a mini art lesson. One of the most important elements of comicbook illustration that was
pounded into my tiny brain early on was that of SILHOUETTE. This
is the basic shape a figure defines on the page. Ideally -- and,
yes, the ideal is sometimes difficult to achieve -- it should be possible to
black in any figure and still be able to tell what the "action" is. And that's
all the way from sitting talking on the phone to leaping off a skyscraper. This is something too many artists either do not know or simply ignore.
But if you check out the major talents of this industry -- Kirby, Ditko,
Buscema, Kubert, Kane, etc -- you will see it is the understanding of this
rule that really gives that added oomph to their work.
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Brian Miller
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Even better than the cover. Simply the best black-costumed Spider-Man you've ever done, JB. And your backgrounds are second to none! Yeah, I'd say you've improved.
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Brian Miller
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I wonder, if Spidey was wearing hi red-and-black threads, how the subjective contour would work with this piece.
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John Byrne
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And your backgrounds are second to none! Who's this None guy everybody keeps saying is better than me?? , , , What?
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Mal Gardiner
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Who's this None guy everybody keeps saying is better than me?? ------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------- Heh - this reminds me of something my old man used to say. He always wanted to know who William Posters was and what he'd done, because of all the signs saying 'Bill Posters will be prosecuted'.
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Chris Geary
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| Posted: 28 November 2009 at 9:38am | IP Logged | 7
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One of the most important elements of comicbook illustration that was
pounded into my tiny brain early on was that of SILHOUETTE. This
is the basic shape a figure defines on the page. Ideally -- and,
yes, the ideal is sometimes difficult to achieve -- it should be possible to
black in any figure and still be able to tell what the "action" is. And that's
all the way from sitting talking on the phone to leaping off a skyscraper.
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That is something that one of the tutors at the now defunct London Cartoon Centre said during his first lecture. And I immediately thought about MIke Mignola's work in Gotham By Gaslight and Dracula. Then sometimes to check if the pose I'd drawn met the criteria I would do a sketch, and black that in. Unfortunately it made be think that everything would look better in silhouette and I had to stop from myself from doing it on practically every pose.
Once I'd got through that stage it made me realise that it's better to draw everything in, then black it out afterwards. At least that way I'd know that everything was as it should be.
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Chris Geary
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oh, and cool pic, JB.
Your buildings look more 3D in this than the original.
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John Byrne
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I wonder, if Spidey was wearing hi red-and-black threads, how the
subjective contour would work with this piece. Little bit like this? 
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Chris Geary
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Little bit like this?
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Cool as that is, JB wouldn't there just be the webbing and no outline at all?
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John Byrne
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Cool as that is, JB wouldn't there just be the webbing and no outline at all? Maybe -- but I'm in no mood to spend the rest of the day drawing webbing
in Photoshop!!
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Chris Geary
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| Posted: 28 November 2009 at 10:02am | IP Logged | 12
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Don't blame you.
Talking of photoshop, have you ever thought about going completely digital?
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