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James Revilla
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I have loved your work on other books JB, but I really think that WCA is a textbook of how comics should be plotted and paced. The way you layered the subplots, wound the main storyline into the next one, just a car firing on all cylinders. I am a hug fan of your art, but I remember that run changing my perception of you as a writer. To this day I cite you as one of the best comic book plotters in the business, WCA is one of the many reasons.
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Eric Ladd
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I'm right there with you Bill. Knowing about the "could have been" stuff is rough.
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Shawn Kane
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My history with the West Coast Avengers was that I LOVED the Stern/Hall limited series, was okay with the regular series when it started missing an occasional issue or two, LOVED when JB took over then dropped when he left. The main reason was that the quality dropped SO much, it wasn't worth reading anymore.
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Michael Roberts
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I took the hint, and left the book. Which is really too bad, because -- and you will forgive my towering immodesty -- if I had been left alone, I would have delivered a story arc that I'm pretty sure would STILL be being talked about, right up there with Dark Phoenix or my Galactus storyline in FF.
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Even as an aborted storyline, those issues continue to be mined by current day Marvel. Avengers Disassembled and House of M excavated that arc, and even the current Avengers vs X-Men can be seen as a convergence of the Dark Phoenix and Dark Wanda storylines.
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Flavio Sapha
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Not a big fan of this run, but I love the individual portrait splash pages JB did for the start of each issue.
Talk about a neat gimmick!
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Wallace Sellars
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I liked JB's WCA, including the "tension" between Iron Man and the rest of
the team and the changes he made to the Vision.
Shades of FF where you had the Doom War arc planned, which also sounded
awesome.
A while after I read JB's mention of the "Doom War" story arc that he had
planned, a Marvel mini-series of the same name appeared on comic book
store shelves.
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Michael Roberts
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A while after I read JB's mention of the "Doom War" story arc that he
had planned, a Marvel mini-series of the same name appeared on
comic book store shelves.
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To be fair, with titles of books and storylines like Secret Wars, Armor
Wars, Civil War, Secret War, Kree/Skrull War, World War Hulk, and so
on, Doom War is not much of a stretch. For some reason, when I heard
the title, I had thought it had already been used during Simonson's run
on FF when he was wrapping up the Doom vs Kristoff storyline.
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Peter Martin
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Not a big fan of this run, but I love the individual portrait splash pages JB did for the start of each issue.--------------------------------------- He did? I remember the awesome one of Iron Man's face with everyone else reflected in it, and a disassembled Vision but the memory's hazy on others.
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Wallace Sellars
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To be fair, with titles of books and storylines like Secret Wars, Armor
Wars, Civil War, Secret War, Kree/Skrull War, World War Hulk, and so
on, Doom War is not much of a stretch.
That's why I didn't say, "Someone from Marvel must have visited the JBF."
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John Byrne
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Not a big fan of this run, but I love the individual portrait splash pages JB did for the start of each issue. Talk about a neat gimmick! •• The EiC didn't "get it" and passed along orders for me to stop the full face splash pages -- so the next issue I drew I opened with a full Moon.
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Nathan Greno
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Not a big fan of this run, but I love the individual portrait splash pages JB did for the start of each issue.
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Nathan Greno
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JB: The EiC didn't "get it" and passed along orders for me to stop the full face splash pages -- so the next issue I drew I opened with a full Moon.
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It sounds like they really gave you hell on that title-
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