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John Byrne
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 10:19am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

11" x 17" commission of Spider-Man and Captain Britain, no backgrounds. The details are: - action pose for each character as if preparing to face off against an unseen foe; Captain Britain looking powerful and Spider-Man swinging in from above/behind

- please draw Captain Britain in the following costume:

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- please draw Spider-Man is this costume:

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Haven't drawn this version of Captain Britain often, and I have to say this costume is a bear! There doesn't seem to be any real logic to the configuration of the elements -- and can someone explain to me why a whole cross is missing off the chest design??

(Must confess, I am not crazy about the name, either. As a long-lapsed Brit, I have difficulty imagining a British person actually calling himself "Captain Britain". The whole Captain Marvel/Captain America/Captain Action cycle seems more American to my ear.)

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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 10:26am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

You rocked on it, JB! That Spider-Man is really cool, with an extra touch of Ditko!

One can't help but imagine a Excalibur story by JB after this.
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Brian Burnham
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 10:26am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Very Nice JB.
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Flavio Sapha
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 10:29am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Excellent!!!
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 10:29am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Great! I agree with Valmor that there's a lot of Ditko in that Spider-Man! 
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 10:33am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

The costume is odd as the red X is Ireland's part of the Union Jack known as St. Patrick's Cross. 
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 10:39am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Very nice.  One of my favourite costuem designs (despite the missing cross).

And hadn't realised you had actually drawn CB in this costume before, JB?  Is that is that just in commissions?

 

 

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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 10:41am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Despite the illogical design,i love it,and your drawing of it is on a par with Alan Davis.Mind you,it got me thinking,is it any more illogical than Captain America`s one star and torso stripes? The flag inspiration is there,but it`s not an exact representation.

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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 10:47am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

And hadn't realised you had actually drawn CB in this costume before, JB?

I can't honestly swear that I have -- but when drawing this piece today, the problems I had figuring out where the lines went felt "familiar".

Possibly I was thinking of Union Jack, in NAMOR. His "modern" costume has the same "missing cross" problems.

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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 10:53am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Mind you,it got me thinking,is it any more illogical than Captain America`s one star and torso stripes? The flag inspiration is there,but it`s not an exact representation.

It's actually illegal to "wear the flag" on this side of the Pond. Captain America's uniform reflects this.

The American flag is also a lot less specific than the British. The number of stars had changed many times over the years, and a symbolic representation doesn't have to include all of them. But each cross on the British flag has a specific meaning, so leaving one off is actually shorting one of the "family". In this case, somewhat ironically, the cross of St. George is missing, leaving out England, the country most people outside the British Isles think of when they hear the word "Britain".

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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 10:57am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

JB: It's actually illegal to "wear the flag" on this side of the Pond. Captain America's uniform reflects this.

SER: A fact I learned in an issue of ALPHA FLIGHT. I also learned the word "amorphous" from an issue of FF. Always there for my education, JB!

BTW: I've said it before but I love how your Spider-Man looks "young." I can't figure out how you do it.
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 11:01am | IP Logged | 12 post reply


Very cool!  You capture Spider-Man's motion so well.

I know Spider-Man is the ultimate loner, but I grew up reading MARVEL TEAM-UP, so it's always good to see him as part of a temporary duo.




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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 11:10am | IP Logged | 13 post reply

Cool!! I am a big fan of Captain Britain, it is awesome to see you draw him in this costume. I do not recall you doing this version before. I agree with Bill that you are on par with Alan Davis.
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 11:15am | IP Logged | 14 post reply

I Swear to Dog..... I don't think you even draw anymore. You're a sorcerer just waving your hands about and weaving you spells on the page and mesmerizing us with your power.
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 11:29am | IP Logged | 15 post reply

I Swear to Dog..... I don't think you even draw anymore. You're a sorcerer just waving your hands about and weaving you spells on the page and mesmerizing us with your power.

Y'know. . .   something has been happening in the work, lately. I hesitate even to "say it out loud", but I am as close as I have ever been to the picture in my head being the picture on the page. For years -- decades -- that has been a gap that made the Grand Canyon look like a crack in the sidewalk, but in the last 18/24 months, I really have felt something changing. That rare phenomenon which I have often described as "watching my hand draw" has been happening more and more. Captain Britain, in this piece, really did seem to just "fall out of the pencil".

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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 11:34am | IP Logged | 16 post reply

Another wonderful commission. You are rockin it, JB!
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 12:14pm | IP Logged | 17 post reply

I had no idea about the flag law.So,you can`t wear a t-shirt with the Stars and Stripes on?
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 12:17pm | IP Logged | 18 post reply

Awesome piece!! I really like the Captain Britain figure, and the Spider-Man figure is pretty darn spiffy, too!

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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 12:26pm | IP Logged | 19 post reply

Here is a page that has the "Flag rules":

Flag Code.

I believe this is the particular section that applies:

 Flag Code wrote:
... The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery...

But a Google image search shows that many people ignore this. The law seems to be overlooked mostly.

Looking at the FAQ on that site I linked to above, it seems there are quite a few people who break the law regarding flags, but I don't know of any recent examples where the law has been enforced:

FLAG FAQ

As for the commission and its subjects, didn't Alan Davis design that version of the Captain Britain uniform?



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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 12:35pm | IP Logged | 20 post reply

Well drawn, sir!
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I had no idea about the flag law.So,you can`t wear a t-shirt with the Stars and Stripes on?

 A few decades ago you might have been, but these days the flag has been transformed into all sorts of clothing and no one seems to bat an eye. 
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 12:45pm | IP Logged | 22 post reply

Yes,that design was by Alan Davis in the early 80`s.
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 1:33pm | IP Logged | 23 post reply

That is absolutely frickin' gorgeous.
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 1:48pm | IP Logged | 24 post reply

Sweet!
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Absolutely fantastic. I like superhero team up commissions.
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