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John Byrne
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Posted: 16 April 2015 at 5:29am | IP Logged | 1
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I stood on the periphery of a conversation in the Bullpen, way, way back when I barely had a career in comics. John Verpoorten was talking to a few other folk about Herb Trimpe's work, and he made the observation that no matter how outlandish the machines and technology were in the books Herb was assigned to draw, he somehow made them "feel real." You might know, empirically, that they could not really work, but in the moment, in context, you believed.High praise, and something that informed my own approach to such things ever after.
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Marcio Ferreira Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 April 2015 at 8:35am | IP Logged | 2
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NOt sure how many of you remember that, but Herb Trimpe worked with BWS (Barry Windsor Smith) in the late 80's when BWS was coming back to comics after years working on illustrations. For me that was a big statement of the comic book artist Herb Trimpe was. Sad that his style ended up being rejected by publishers.
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Marcio Ferreira Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 April 2015 at 8:37am | IP Logged | 3
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Marcio Ferreira Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 April 2015 at 8:41am | IP Logged | 4
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BWS & Herb Trimpe
Edited by Marcio Ferreira on 16 April 2015 at 8:43am
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 April 2015 at 11:10am | IP Logged | 5
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I do remember that and I thought Herb worked well with BWS. Not late 80s though -- it was slap bang in the middle of the 80s.
Edited by Peter Martin on 16 April 2015 at 11:10am
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Phil Kreisel Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 03 February 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1911
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Posted: 16 April 2015 at 4:33pm | IP Logged | 6
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I'm not a big fan of the dumb Hulk, but the one strip I adored (though it didn't go anywhere, really was this one, pencilled and inked by Herb.
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Ted Pugliese Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 05 December 2005 Location: United States Posts: 7979
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Posted: 17 April 2015 at 8:30am | IP Logged | 7
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You can't wonder who's next. Everyone is next, it's the order that's unknown. Best to not think about such things and celebrate the person who just passed.
"It's the order that's unknown."
Maybe that's why I find myself wondering who's next.
Nobody gets out alive, so it's only "when" that's left to ponder.
I do it with family & pets too. Hoping I got at least 75 good years in me. The rest is gravy.
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Marc Cheek Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 April 2015 at 8:53am | IP Logged | 8
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I've often wondered about the change in Herb's artwork when he was penciling Fantastic Four Unlimited. I guess this was the early 90s around the time that Rob Liefeld was a "Name". Herb's figures seemed resemble Liefeld's figures a lot - small heads included. I've wondered whether that was a conscious attempt by Herb mimic that style. It didn't work for Liefeld and it didn't work for Herb either... I don't recall seeing any work by Herb since then, so maybe it was just a passing phase...
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John Byrne
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Posted: 17 April 2015 at 9:00am | IP Logged | 9
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I've wondered whether that was a conscious attempt by Herb mimic that style. •• I realize most folk don't understand the Artistic Process, but surely you cannot be suggesting Herb made such a radical -- I might even say grotesque -- change to the way he drew without it being deliberate?
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Marc Cheek Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 April 2015 at 11:01am | IP Logged | 10
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Though I'm no artist, I suppose I realized it was a deliberate change of style... I guess more than anything I was wondering why he would try to emulate Liefeld... And I wouldn't argue with the adjective grotesque.
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Marc Cheek Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 April 2015 at 12:02pm | IP Logged | 11
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I did want to add that I didn't mean this to become about what I didn't like about Herb Trimpe's art. I'm too much of a fan of his work on the Hulk for that. I grew up with the Hulk reprints in Marvel Super Heroes.
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Andrew W. Farago Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 April 2015 at 12:35pm | IP Logged | 12
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Herb said in interviews that it was his decision to draw in the Liefeld/Image style for his Fantastic Four Unlimited assignment, and his editor encouraged him to run with it. It went down as a failed experiment, but since work had been drying up at Marvel anyway, it wasn't a huge gamble on his part. Ultimately, that ended up being maybe 100 pages of output out of the thousands and thousands he drew during his career.
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