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Robert Shepherd
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Interesting...I was totally thinking about Walt as this whole topic came up.I was thinking why is Walt's style ok with me but FM's is not?
I think the biggest issue I have is the asymmetrical figure work. That is just too wonky for my tastes.
The rendering style comes in a close second.
Back during the original DK series, FM drew very stylistically but it had symmetry. His current style seems to break out of that, at least for these covers.
The internal pages look more "normal" to my eye.
A question though: When you look at the internal pages, what do you see that screams "This is FM work?" Maybe it does scream his work, but I'm curious what visual markers portray that because I don't see it.
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Robert LaGuardia
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The faces are typical Miller. The other visual marker for me would be
the page layouts.
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Paul Greer
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Walt is amazing!!!
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Aki Himmanen
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I'm glad FM can still produce artwork, be it covers, layouts, breakdowns, whatever. The man is a gift. I do not love everything he has done, and only read DK2 in the library when there was a collected edition handy. He is always exciting, often offensive, sometimes tedious, but he is there. And it will be a great loss once he's gone.
I don't really like the cover. Too grotesque. What I've seen of the interior pages is fine.
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Jani Evinen
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Isn't part of why people like the interiors becouse Klaus Janson has inked them? and that look has generally always been popular among fans?
I really like the preview pages from that Atom comic too, since I am a big fan of Miller/Jansons art in Daredevil and DKR.
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John Byrne
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Isn't part of why people like the interiors becouse Klaus Janson has inked them? and that look has generally always been popular among fans? I really like the preview pages from that Atom comic too, since I am a big fan of Miller/Jansons art in Daredevil and DKR. •• There is a play called I'M GETTING MY ACT TOGETHER AND TAKING IT ON THE ROAD. It's about a woman who has for years been a star on a successful soap opera, and who is breaking away to do a one woman show that is radically different. Her agent expresses concern that she is giving her established audience nothing of what they expect from her. I've said for years that the principle reason RONIN "failed" is that it didn't look like DAREDEVIL, and one of the reasons DKR was such a success was that it did.
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Fred J Chamberlain
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I loved Ronin! One of my favorite Miller stories.
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John Byrne
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I loved Ronin! One of my favorite Miller stories.•• So did a lot of people. But DC was expecting it to be a bigger splash than it was, so they deemed it a "failure."
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Joe Boster
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bigger splash than it was, so they deemed it a "failure."
+++++++++
Like Avengers:Age of Ultron.
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Marin Balabanov
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Ronin is a beautiful piece of comic art.
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Flavio Sapha
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As much as I like some of these variant covers, the whole thing looks like
fan art from a distance.
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Eric Smearman
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I love RONIN. I need a new copy, come to think of it.
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