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Robert Shepherd Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 30 March 2014 Location: United States Posts: 1268
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Posted: 03 October 2017 at 9:01pm | IP Logged | 1
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Joe Kubert's TOR Artist Edition is being previewed here:
The YouTuber moves the camera way too much but the you do get some close up flashes of how good the art really is.
Amazing work.
Garcia-Lopez's Twilight is amazing too. Another artist I never followed but when I see his work on Twilight and Metal Men - stunning.
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Brian Hague Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 October 2017 at 9:42pm | IP Logged | 2
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Shane, for those of us who did know those characters, Twilight was a puerile, nauseating, and deeply unpleasant experience.
I don't know what cast of childhood-oriented characters you might have once enjoyed and still look back upon with nostalgia, but if it were, say for instance, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, you'd have to imagine a prolonged narrative featuring Leonardo as a preening narcissist whose only form of sexual pleasure is being beaten with a wet mop by a prostitute who dresses up as his mother; Raphael as a giggling, cannibalistic serial killer; Donatello as a PTSD suffering weeper with no control of his excretory functions; and Michaelangelo as happy-go-lucky, well-adjusted supermarket bag boy with a shed out in back of his house stacked with dead five-year girls to get some sense of what Twilight meant to fans of classic DC.
Sure, as the writer of such garbage, you might think yourself the sharpest, brightest, and most gosh-darn clever tool in the drawer to so effectively puncture any sense of idiotic nostalgia the wet-brained fans still had for such characters... but you'd be a preening ass yourself to do so.
The art is not bad. Personally, I prefer Lopez's work on Atari Force to it myself. And Robert is correct. No one does the Metal Men better.
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Shane Matlock Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 August 2012 Location: United States Posts: 1760
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Posted: 03 October 2017 at 11:16pm | IP Logged | 3
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Brian, I was a bit old for TMNT, but I can use, say, the Avengers or Spider-Man and think of them being handled that way and how much it would piss me off, so I get why it angered fans of those characters. I had no idea they were even older DC characters! I thought they were created just for Twilight. I guess maybe it's a good thing that when people think of Twilight these days, they think of the puerile, nauseating, and deeply unpleasant series of films about teenage lust and vampires.
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Brian Hague Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 October 2017 at 11:29pm | IP Logged | 4
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Someone, someday is going to do something worthwhile with that name, Shane. Or at least we can all hope so.
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 27 October 2013 Location: United States Posts: 2293
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Posted: 04 October 2017 at 2:29am | IP Logged | 5
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Trying to collect Garcia-Lopez is aggravating. He's the best artist--with not much to buy! I don't think they''ll ever collect ATARI FORCE (because of licensing hang-ups) and I never saw it at the time; his DC character guide and all the product work he did are not available in book form (though what a coffee table book it would make!); TWILIGHT's story is hated by many (I bought it a few months ago and couldn't even finish it); his BATMAN/HULK and SUPERMAN/WONDER WOMAN tabloids are hard to find in the original formats and lose a lot when printed comic size (where they're even smaller than regular art to fit the more square size on the page); he did a beautiful SPIRIT 8-page back-up a few years ago, but things like that are so random; his SUPERMAN (badly inked) and DC COMICS PRESENTS stories are so few and also somewhat random; I recently found back issues of HERCULES UNBOUND that he did, but what an odd pairing with Wally Wood inking (still nice to look at though); I forgot how long he did NEW TEEN TITANS, but that might have been the only regular comic book series he did.
I think there's enough non-licensed material for a "DC Universe by Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez" collection, but it would be just a bit random and strange. (Would love to see an Artist's Edition--especially for all his covers!)
Edited by Eric Jansen on 04 October 2017 at 3:52am
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2017 at 2:34am | IP Logged | 6
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Oops! I just looked it up and they DID do an ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN BY JOSE LUIS GARCIA-LOPEZ in 2013! Might have to track that down!
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Eric Sofer Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 31 January 2014 Location: United States Posts: 4789
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Posted: 04 October 2017 at 4:00am | IP Logged | 7
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Eric, that AoS by JL G-L is a very pretty book... it's a gem.
There are a couple other artists I'd like to get JB's opinion on, but I think that if I do, I'll just start my own thread. Save a little bandwidth and possible embarrassment... :)
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Eric Smearman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2017 at 4:03am | IP Logged | 8
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I thought I read somewhere that Dynamite Comics now has the Atari license and is collecting the ATARI FORCE series.
A few years ago, DC put out a trade collection the four-issue miniseries CINDER AND ASHE that JLGL did with Gerry Conway. It’s not a superhero book, more of a crime action drama. It’s some of the best art by Garcia-Lopez that I’ve ever seen.
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Shane Matlock Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2017 at 4:08am | IP Logged | 9
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I didn't know about that either, Eric, and will be purchasing it myself on Amazon. There's a pretty good review of that hardcover here.
http://collectededitions.blogspot.com/2013/11/review-adventu res-of-superman-jose-luis-garcia-lopez.html
Edit: And by Eric, I meant Eric Jansen. Lots of Erics in this thread!
Edited by Shane Matlock on 04 October 2017 at 4:09am
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Trevor Smith Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 21 September 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 3521
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Posted: 04 October 2017 at 4:50am | IP Logged | 10
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I have the Superman/Wonder Woman reprint, and while disappointing that it's not full size, after paging through it many times, I can say that having it at all is better than not!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 04 October 2017 at 9:22am | IP Logged | 11
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I also did not know about the AoS book. Ordered!
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2017 at 10:19am | IP Logged | 12
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As for John Buscema, I much preferred his Conan (specifically SAVAGE SWORD OF CONAN) to any of his super-hero stuff. Besides the super-heroes and Conan, are there any Buscema gems out there that I probably wouldn't know about?
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