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Raj Dhami
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my all time favourite FF cover - or maybe second to FF #238!
loved the combo of Tyros & Doom - albeit they weren't actually working together!
and that panel of Ben sitting in the cab.....AMAZING!!!!!
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John Byrne
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and that panel of Ben sitting in the cab.....AMAZING!!!!!•• Close to my personal favorite drawing of Ben. By me. My all time favorite is this, by Kirby: 
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Brian Miller
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Every time I try to draw him I quit because I’m afraid I make all the plates
look uniform. It’s like my mind will only let me put one shape down.
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Raj Dhami
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the influence is clear in the scene of Ben in the taxi....and while it is apparent that you were "standing on the shoulder of giants" - to my eyes at least - your depiction surpasses that of Mr Kirby's.
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John Byrne
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Three things (ahem) I keep in the front of my brain when I draw Bashful Benjamin:1) Vary the size of the plates, making them smaller at the joints 2) Keep the surface uneven, with some plates casting shadows on those next to them 3) Remember that his hide resembles a dry riverbed, not cobblestones
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Peter Martin
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| Posted: 29 November 2022 at 5:27pm | IP Logged | 6
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I remember trying to draw the Thing as a child (from memory, no reference for this kid artist) and every plate was a pentagon.
Quite recently I was mucking around sketching a dragon and using photos of African bush vipers as a reference and I was struck how some of their scales on their faces are Thing-like.
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John Byrne
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Thant may have been what they were after with the wretched "pinecone" version.
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ron bailey
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Pre-Byrne The Invisible Woman and The Thing were my least favorite member of the FF, post-Byrne they became my most favorite.
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Peter Martin
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Sue definitely got a lot more interesting under JB. I still think Reed is just about my favourite of the four, but I think part of the appeal of JB's run was that I was quite happy to spend time with either of the four of them (or five if you include She-Hulk, which I do).
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Jabari Lamar
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I remember a comic back in the year 2000, written by Greg Rucka, where Lex Luthor was recruiting Talia Al Ghul to run Lexcorp while he was President of the United States, and she introduced herself as "Talia Head, pronounced HEED in the British way" and that immediately struck me as odd, thinking its that's not how anyone would talk. Like, did she deliberately mispronounce the name the first time just so she could correct it?
Another JB example of a better way to do it was in the Namor series where he first met Headhunter and she called him "Submareener" and he corrected her "Submariner." And that page was interesting to me because it was the first time I ever thought of his name being pronounced the former way, I always mentally read it as Submariner, but I realized how many could think it should be the latter.
Edited by Jabari Lamar on 30 November 2022 at 7:59pm
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John Byrne
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For Namor it’s all in the hyphen. He is the sub-mariner. Mariner isn’t pronounced mareener. And I say this as the guy who thought thought the c in Alicia’s name was a hard k.
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Michael Penn
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The Rime of the Ancient Mariner, after all...!
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